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Article Source: Alex Jones' Prison Planet.comReason for forced digital switchover in US and UK: Government and industry watching us to build profiles, launch invasive advertising....
A popular video circulating on You Tube shows the discovery of a spy camera and a microphone hidden inside a digital TV converter box. Such devices are part of a government and industry surveillance program that is undoubtedly connected to the forced digital TV switchover being rolled out in the UK and US
what a way for our Governments to put a camera in the home because they know that there would be uproar and heavy opposition if the Govt came out in public that is is mandatory to have a camera installed in your house.. Always a familiar pattern...using stealth
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I remember one night a couple years ago I wasn't hungry but got up, made a bowl of cereal, and when I went to sit back down to eat the news @ 9 came on to announce that people were starting to eat breakfast foods at night.
We now have cable(I don't approve and I don't pay for it), which my roommate always watches sports center. One night I was practicing for spanish and the sports center hosts said some spanish words for no reason at all.
Just a couple instances I found odd.
Coincidence? Once is a coincidence, twice is ?, three times is enemy action.
Gather 'round kids, it's story time.
So, many years ago when I was realizing first hand what sorts of jobs one can get with a bachelor's degree in History, I worked as technical support at Dish Network (the satellite TV people who aren't DirecTV).
Dish makes and supports a bunch of receivers and, as anyone who's worked tech support will tell you, certain calls just go down in history for being chock full of awesome. One such call was actually bandied about the call center in the training programs as an example of "what not to do."
This old and crazy lady calls in talking about how Dish is spying on her through her satellite TV receiver. She seemed to think that the red light on the front of the receiver - the one that means "Hi, I'm a satellite receiver and I'm on right now" - was the "recording" light on a video camera. She thought we were watching her every move.
So the tech goes on and on and on with her about how no we're not watching her. He goes above and beyond the call of duty, explaining how electromagnetic radiation dissipates at the square of distance, how her satellite system simply doesn't have the power to transmit, how our satellites simply didn't have the bandwidth to receive from millions of receivers, how the whole this was simply impossible.
And slowly... very slowly... he brought her down to earth and showed her the light of reason. By the end of the call they were chummy and there was a great report between them so... just as he's about to sign off he says "and that's a lovely red sweater you're wearing."
Now remember, this is phone support. Guess what she was wearing.
She. Freaked. Out. (And he had to go find a new job).
Now, hilarious as that story is, it does illustrate several points.
1 - There's no way anyone could use a bug like that to spy on a large number of people. It's just too much data and the transmission range would be too small. You'd need hundreds of thousands of collection points and vast amounts of storage.
2 - Even if you could somehow pull this off, you'd get a bunch of video of slack-jawed Americans staring at their TVs. Who, really, cares? It's so much easier to just tap your phone without a warrant.
LOL, killfile, great story. Butl, if it would be colossally impracticable (not that this has ever stopped them...look at Vietnam, Iraq), how is it they want authority to surveil the internet? That would have as many problems, no?
Killfile THAT IS A GREAT STORY!!! Made water come out my nose!! I hope the guy who lost his job went into fortune telling... Maybe he is working for a police department somewhere as a psychic!
And thanks for the dose of reality, as well...Although this story still made me glad I cleaned up my act years ago:)
There's no way anyone could - if there's a will there's a way
1) Not if it was selective
2) It is illegal to own a cell phone w/o gps, also cell phones are receivers at all times(as long as they are turned on, including video if you have it)
I guess anything is possible, but it puts me in mind of "Bruce Allmighty" with all of the praying...how could they sort through the drivel?
There's no way anyone could use a bug like that to spy on a large number of people. It's just too much data and the transmission range would be too small. You'd need hundreds of thousands of collection points and vast amounts of storage.
Great point, Killfile. I think this is paranoia at its finest creating fiction, not news.
It is illegal to own a cell phone w/o gps, also cell phones are receivers at all times(as long as they are turned on, including video if you have it)
Neal, GPS and location-based services are optional on every cell phone I've seen. Turn it off. It sucks your battery life anyway.
Facebook installs a tracking cookie onto your computer to follow everywhere you go, they have recently gotten in trouble for selling the information but I'm sure they help out the Information Awareness Office when it needs it.
Anyways, wouldn't running programs that sift through phone conversations searching for keywords be efficient? I've seen a couple news stories about the passive storage of phone records.
lucid - I'll get back to you I have to go to class
great story Killfile. roflmao. as far as this one though, I watched the video and it's bs. that really is a camera but it's not connected to anything...it's the guts out of a webcam with the wires cut off and glued to the transformer, which by the way would generate enough inductive power to prevent the CCD in the camera from functioning.
if "they" wanted to spy on us there are a lot of simpler and more effective ways.
They do want to. There are easier ways, and they are using them. :)
I am not so paranoid as to believe this story.
I need to see it to believe it.
Who wants to watch someone that is so poor they can't afford a new digital TV ($50 used maybe)? Makes no sense.
Who wants to watch someone that is so poor they can't afford a new digital TV ($50 used maybe)? Makes no sense
See,that's the problem! Near-sighted and under appreciated value for humanity.
Are you implying that the $50 makes or breaks someone in their worth?
How simplistic! If he/she buys the converter(40-70$$) then they are worthy of being watched?
Like someone above wrote...it's selective .Intrusive. Immoral. Unethical.
For you Rushrules...a monitor/sensor for your toilet.Like in Singapore. 50 lashes for not wiping the seaty,sweetie.
Not farretched.I mean far fetched.
Then a "monitor" for your car.
And the most important issue is the fact that what used to be "free" is now only accessible at a premium....cable,satellite,dish or converter.And the "commercials" are still sold and imposed over and over on your poor little minds.
Reunion,reunion,reunion...that's all I see and hear...20 year reunion...the slob,the player,the wannabe,the slut....WHORE's,,,lol!!hahahahahaaahaaa...(that's what you get for your $100 ...prime entertainment...and to boot,surveillance of your petty ,obscene lives). You're right...they don't care about most of the pathetic,complacent,apathetic ,insolent...they are right where they are wanted...nowhere,distracted by the pettiness to understand the real agenda. The corralling and lobotomization of the human creation.
Too late for me...can't... go ...on...Bwaaaahaahahaaha.
Are you implying that the $50 makes or breaks someone in their worth?
Not what I am saying at all. What I AM saying is that if someone is too cheap to go buy a digital tv, then chances are pretty darn good they aren't out on the black market buying high explosives or taking flying lessons in Florida.
Then a "monitor" for your car.
Actually, I am one of those that does have a pc, always on high speed internet, and cable television built into my car. Not really too worried about anyone watching me drive. lol
understand the real agenda. The corralling and lobotomization of the human creation.
Wouldn't it have to be TRUE in order for there to be an agenda? ;)
Good story killfile, but must you post in those striped boxers???
Wouldn't it have to be TRUE in order for there to be an agenda? ;)
In your case...it's TRUE!! Hahahahaha...lol. [comedy] [sarcasm]
Yeah...they are so sexy(the striped boxers) Killfile.
And in the future technology will make it possible for this threat to be viable.Programs and pograms.When every other neighbor is coerced by their own pettiness to turn you in for "thought crime". Unacceptable facial expressions. Farting.swatting the rear of your own child.
Giving them soda before 12 pm.
These stressors are applied way in advance to desensitizes the populace and acclimate them to the idea of Big Brothers infallibility and to gain your unwavering support and willingness to conform.Unquestioning.Blind allegiance. Just the first step.
"Conform. Conform. we are back in control.red Sector A is back in our control"
Low and high frequency waves emmitted by HDTV can/might interfere with aural and visual processing...add a couple of RealID chips to recipe and voila...controllable species.
High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program - Wikipedia, the free ...
Re: GPS and cellphones, What we have said is there may be a surcharge in the future [for non-GPS cellphones] because with the older technology, we're not going to be able to do a number of things that may be required
Good link, neal. The net is tightening, the water is heating up, whatever metaphor you like. Some of us are noticing, many if not most, do not want to be aware of what's happening because it's too inhuman to contemplate.
Only people who find interest in this stuff are the people that are aware and the people that want to discredit those who are.
neal242: Wow. I am still trying to figure out what you said, but its like having bees living in my head!
neal, users are required to have phones with that technology, but I've still never personally seen a phone that has location-based services "always on." If there are phones that exist with that mode, please tell me which ones, but I'm still doubtful that this is anything other than pandering to paranoia.
Try this lucid, turn your gps off call 911 and see if they can find you without telling them your location.
Why are you trying to get lucid arrested? Cell phones ping off towers even when there is no GPS available.
He can try it out when the need for calling 911 arises. Unless of course everybody who dials 911 is arrested.
If one calls 911 just for the fun of it, they could, in fact, get arrested. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
For the record: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/02/dtv-converters.html
One question: What about those of us who aren't getting those boxes because we don't need them?
#3 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:37 PM ESTThey'll have to spy on us in the old-fashioned way, through our computers:-)
From a link about Google in the article:
The idea is to use the existing PC microphone to listen to whatever is heard in the background, be it music, your phone going off or the TV turned down. The PC then identifies it, using fingerprinting, and then shows you relevant content, whether that's adverts or search results, or a chat room on the subject.
regular cable boxes could contain similar devices, and quite easily.
Can a microphone be disabled?
that's not a real question, is it
I am probably one of the biggest conspiracy believers around. I would probably trust the devil himself more than I would trust anyone in the government. But having seen the youtube video and having worked in electronics for over twenty years and the last ten years as a network engineer, I find myself a little doubtful as to the camera/mic thing. First of all the mic looks to be an infared detector for remote control. A remote sensor if you will. Second what looks to be a camera is attached to a transformer. Probably a switch mode transformer. and I could be wrong but there is probably a lot of high frquency rf coming off of that transformer that could interfere with even a modulated video signal being picked up by a camera. I wouldn't put it past our goverment to do something like that. And I wouldn't put it past Philips ( the company that owns Magnavox ) especially since I worked for them for about ten years. But I'm not real sure about this one. Anyway I hope I'm right.
#4 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:49 PM ESTHey, gill, thanks for the input. I was hoping somebody would know what all that stuff inside the black box is. More investigation is needed. Are you getting an HD box?
#5 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:55 PM ESTAlex Jones is a complete nut and its usually pretty reasonable to disregard any of the stuff that comes off his website. Additionally, I'm not convinced that that's what those two things are. I'm certainly no expert, but where would it be storing the recorded audio and video? Is it live streaming them through a hidden satellite hook-up or something? If so, you need to find that link in the chain to sell this. And run a test, show me it records stuff. You can't just point to a black nob and say its whatever you want it to be.
#6 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:01 PM ESTI'm glad somebody is still taking this threat seriously and still reporting on it. Keeping it fresh and in the forefront of our minds.
Thanks for this article.
I will make sure I put up a good show if I get one of those *scratch, scratch, scratch
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#8 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:11 PM ESTPlaying Devil's Advocate here.But doesn't it seem overly convoluted to video tape and record every single person with one of these convertor boxes?
You would have to have to many people to monitor all these feeds.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a chip in the box that just relayed what channel you were watching to a central location?
Just thinking.
#9 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:11 PM ESTOil. Good point, the one about needing as many people doing the monitoring as are being monitored. I think that's the direction Facebook is going; we all monitor each other. They do global monitoring of telephone conversations, no? Looking for key words, phrases, names. They could do the same with this, using voice recognition software and such, it would be a very handy tool in the Dictators' kit.
You would have to have to many people to monitor all these feeds.
Not so: They could just turn one particular device on when monitoring one home in particular for whatever reason... All they would need for this would be the device's transponder ID.
Yeah, I suppose they could just 'tune in' to whomever they want to know about. Wiretapping on steroids.
Interesting, but I doubt it.
Simple way to test this though. Buy a converter box, hook the coax up to a spectrum analyzer, and turn it on.
The spectrum analyzer will show all signals that the devices generates/receives. If there's a camera and microphone (which that close to a step-up transformer I would highly doubt it. Even in the military, we haven't managed to overcome the basic laws of electronics) , it would have to transmit a signal through the coax. The spectrum analyzer would detect this.
As far as conspiracy theories go, this one 's pretty simple to put to bed. I have the Spec/An at work. I just need to find a converter box.
#12 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:05 PM ESTYou are way cool, Sgt. Let us know if we need to put tin foil hats on our HD converters:-)
Cause I've been looking for a reason to use my spectrum analyzer. Thanks Serge.
It's fun to find ways to use gimmicks you just 'had to have':-)
I'm gonna leave myself a note here so I'll be sure to come back and see Sgt C USMC's test results.
The sarge may have everbody do an About Face on this story.
Iiiiiiii, for one, don't believe it. Well, lemme take that back. I think it is 100% possible, but I don't think the American government is spying on us. There's too much criminal activity, too many dead babies, too much devilment for anyone of any authority here to ignore if they had the means to know about it.
On the other hand, I've suspected all along that the digital transition could open avenues for foreign spywares to gain access to us. I think that's just as possible with any electronics, though.
There's too much criminal activity, too many dead babies, too much devilment for anyone of any authority here to ignore if they had the means to know about it.
Apparently, you are not aware that they are behind all of that.
Well, I'm confident all of the emails , txt's & IM's I have ever sent are stored somewhere waiting to be violated by somebody....so something such as this would not surprise me at all....it's just a matter of time.
#13 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:19 PM ESTIt's not just converter boxes. I have it on good authority that sensors are being placed in sewer lines to detect just what is being flushed in each and every household.
Additionally, Congress is writing a law to require everyone to mark their name, address and phone number on their garbage bags, businesses too, this is only phase one, in phase two your garbage bags will come with RFID tags built in and coded to you at the checkout counter.
Big brother is out there, and he's doing more than just watching you! ;)
#15 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:48 PM ESTNot only will Congress require everyone to mark their name etc...on all that, but soon you will be required to have a microchip placed in your hand or forehead. Okay, so maybe not that, yet. They are going to put microchips in our drivers licenses...
Here in Florida the DL's already have coded magnetic strips. You can run, but you can't hide.
They have that strip here in Texas also. I once was carded purchasing alcohol and they took my DL and swiped it. Quite interesting...
Not only will Congress require everyone to mark their name etc...on all that, but soon you will be required to have a microchip placed in your hand or forehead. Okay, so maybe not that, yet. They are going to put microchips in our drivers licenses...
That really isn't that outrageous and is currently be designed for alsheimers patients. Look up "digital angel". Been used for years in animal tracking and farm animal health tracking. I was a stockholder until I saw the implications of such a product.
"The mark of the beast" can take many forms.
Who would like to sign up to watch middle-aged, beer guzzling fat guys scratching, burping and napping through sports programs? This is called "marketing".
Let us recall the lyrics from Buffalo Springfield - "Paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it will creep. Starts when your always afraid...."
#17 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:29 PM ESTOne company's marketing survey is another company's 'raw data'. These days there is good reason to be paranoid; another tool in the survival backpack.
The first spy cameras in digital converter boxes came as a result of The Patriot Act. Although this sounds insidious, the ultimate intent was to innocently locate a box that was tuned to The Cartoon Network.
Administration insiders speculate that on the day this was implemented, George W. Bush's Gameboy had been misplaced.
#18 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:39 PM ESTAs long as I wear my tin foil hat with the spinner on it I'm not worried.
#19 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:45 PM ESTFirst, it's not only the government who spies on people: jealous wives and husbands, girlfriends and boyfriends, and people who don't trust their babysitter. Don't just blame go blaming Uncle Sam first.
#20 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:34 PM ESTThe story got it wrong. The governement isn't the one doing the spying...it's Elvis. He's been in hiding since his supposed "death," and has been quietly gathering data. On everyone. (Some have speculated his elaborate spy network is being used to track the whereabouts of JFK, but I have my doubts. I think he's keeping tabs on Priscilla.)
#22 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:15 PM ESTCan we blame him for everything else, too? It would cut out a lot of the blame game and then we could move onto the solution. I mean, for real move on....
I wonder if this wasn't something as simple as a Nanny Cam?
#23 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:24 PM ESTPNB ,
Good point . A 'dummy' designed to look like the real thing, but it's nothing more than a shell housing a low light pinhole camera, a photodiode, and a SD memory card. I used one in my barracks room. Prevented theft. Or made it much easier to persecute.
o.0 ... puts a cover over her cable tv , phone, and internet access modem ..the guy who installed it told her he sat it beside her computer, as a modem would more than likely be reset manually due to computer usage than due to tv usage. 0.0
#25 - Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:07 PM ESTWatching us, huh?
Well, all they'd see at my house, besides do-it-yourself home/garden shows, and programs for the kidlets, is me shaking my fists at them and yelling about what a bunch of pompous,hypocrites that I find them to be...especially the far-out, far right Rushpuppy "officials" lol!!
Not sure I'd be of interest to them...unless they can tell me what to watch, and say "NO!" to everything else!! hahahaha.
#26 - Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:04 AM ESTWow. I am the same way. Either really boring stuff, kid stuff or me screaming about what incompetant morons the rulers of this police state are. Glad to see there are more like me.
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